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Nov 1 2011

This is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things

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Call it a first world problem, or make social commentary about being part of the 99%, but like many women, I can’t afford to buy designer labels. I’m guessing you can’t either. Providing designer-for-less, or designer knock-off, has become a billion dollar industry, and many in providing fast-fashion to the masses have made their fortunes on our need to have high-concept looks at affordable prices. Even Target through their Go International line, has invested in collaborating with designers to produce a variety of lines including clothing, bedding and kitchenware. Most recently they teamed up with Missoni to produce a line of brightly colored chevron detailed clothing, accessories and even plastic plates to use while BBQing on the patio. It was so popular it sold out within 24 hours! People lined up 100 deep while shelves were restocked and the company’s website crashed repeatedly.

H&M has teamed up with Versace to launch not one, but two, collaborations inspired by classic Versace themes – print, leather and embellishments. A sneak peek of the line to be released in November (with a second in January), was recently unveiled to the public. And it’s awesome. Who wouldn’t want that jacket? Or, for that matter, the dress? The details are exquisite.

Versace1 220x300 This is Why We Can’t Have Nice ThingsForever 21, H&M’s poor little cousin, has also ventured into collaboration. Perhaps due to the bad press they consistently get for outright copying patterns, silhouettes and designs, the fast fashion chain has decided to put aside the gold lame mini dresses and market to the masses who demand designer looks. For the holiday season of 2010, they experimented with the concept by working with Brian Lichtenberg to create a line of graphic tees. What was produced wasn’t terrible, but also wasn’t much more than a logo tee line with the words “Foverever” and “21” very close to a real designer’s name in a situation outside the court of law.Their next outing was less successful. Partnering with Petro Zillia, Forever 21 unleashed a line of faux terry activewear that looked less like something a woman could wear to the mall, to work, or even the gym and more like something you’d wear walking the streets for cash.  The bright colored stripes looked good – on the models. The fabric looked fun for spring – in the photos. What you got in the stores was a line of boob holsters and panties in a fabric that felt like chemicals. Their partnership with Rory Beca was slightly more successful; the sizing was more accurate, and the fabrics felt more normal. Some pieces were wearable, although the jumper added to the world’s camel toe problem.

Petro Zilla1 300x218 This is Why We Can’t Have Nice ThingsThe embroidered pockets will make my 12 year old boobs look more mature, right?

The ultimate question is why, time after time, does H&M and even Target succeed in producing a high quality, high fashion designer line while Forever 21 consistently fails? The answer here is price point. The old adage of a customer gets what she pays for 100% accurate. By charging slightly more, the value of the item increases as the designers can choose better textiles and spend more time ensuring quality control. H&M routinely designs for women taller than 5ft 5; their dresses are longer and the rises of any shorts, jumpers or skirts are truer. What this means for the consumer is that a dress will fall past their hip and a skirt will fall to the midpoint of the thigh.

Forever 21, and the Chang family that runs the business, is so focused on growth for the sake of growth, that they have yet to stop and analyze the business. Just because everyone else is working with designers, doesn’t mean that they too must collaborate. Consumers will spend more if the product line looks expensive and has a luxurious feel.  Yes, they’ve made their mark with two dollar camis and a fun line of inexpensive jewelry, but don’t they have more faith in their customer? If Forever 21 wants to open a store in Times Square and set themselves up as a label just as fashion forward and just as influential as any in NY’s fashion district, they have got to give more credit to their customer base. Sure, they’ll always have girls trying to out skank each other in the club. (That’s why they’ve come out with a youthful maternity line, duh.) And yet, in this economy, fast fashion tends to do well. Those in the comfortable middle class unabashedly shop at the once sole provider of tween clubwear. And Forever 21 has taken advantage of this with their expanded brands such as Love 21 and Heritage 1981 which offer a more mature look and better sizing.

It’s all about growing pains really. H&M has already grown up, and while their prices reflect this, so too does the quality. Forever 21 must make the choice to commit to their new big box mentality. They can no longer market to a niche group, and must create and support lines that reflect the culture. They’ve inherited a market of fashion savvy consumers who want designer labels and high fashion concepts but who are unwilling or unable to spend thousands of dollars to have those looks. Now is the time to invest in quality before jobs begin to pay better. In fashion, one day you’re in and the next you are out. By building a loyal customer base, Forever 21 can survive the booms times as well as its survived the recession. But putting out crappy designer collaborations while H&M is partnering with Versace is not how to do it.

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  1. Aly, November 11, 2011
    I glad to read this article. One of the reasons I am seriously against Forever 21 is because of the blatant low end duplication of someone else's hard work. I worked for Anna Sui for 2 years and she has been in a law suit battle for YEARS over a beautiful dress she designed that they blatantly copied. It's in really bad taste. Especially with all the young fashion design talent. Why not hire young designers and produce more in house? Greedy business. Reply
  2. Célèste of Fashion is Evolution, November 11, 2011
    Great post. I totally agree with you. I feel like Forever 21 has a lot going for it, but they could benefit from re-examining. Their clothes are too cheaply made and they carry so many styles at once that walking in their store is overwhelming. I must say, though, that I've been disappointed by how H&M handled their designer collaborations in the past. I went to my local H&M on the day that the Lavin collection launched and there was nothing there. The sales staff didn't even know about the collection! What the hell? Reply
    • Elizabeth, November 11, 2011
      Wow- I understand it selling out but for the staff to not even know about it is insane! Reply
  3. Heather Fonseca, November 8, 2011
    What a great article! i am guilty of shopping at forever 21 for their jewelry, which is so cheap but well designed it hurts. However I haven't purchased anything there in almost a year. I'm really trying to be a thoughtful consumer, and their stuff is just soooooo cheap. The clothing is a joke. That I don't buy. I found out the other day that they ripped off my neighbor. He's a photographer and they just took a photo off his site and put it on a shirt. He took sued and they paid. But still. H&M by contrast is beautifully designed. I still don't buy clothes there because they're too cheaply made. If H&M came out with a more expensive line I probably would buy it! Target has me though. It's cheap and sometimes nasty but I'm there anyway buying groceries. What can I do? I loved the Missoni line... Reply
    • Elizabeth, November 9, 2011
      Ellie mentioned below that Forever21 actually has a fund in place for these situations- they know they're ripping people off, but they're clearly still making enough of a profit even with paying people off that they don't care. It's so incredibly unethical. With regards to H&M, i tend to shop there because I don't mind if the clothing is cheaply made, it's cheap enough $ wise to replace season after season, although I know I'm completely disregarding the environment with this. It's definitely difficult to find that balance Reply
    • Bella Q, November 17, 2011
      I can't stand F-21. Why? Because they rip off. They rip off big time designers, little local designers, and jewelry designers. They stole a design from a small time jewelry designer and then sold it for 10 bucks. Her cost to make it was 25. Fucked up. They are terrible, stealing outright ideas, and designers, making it in poor quality material and producing it in sweatshops. We get that 10 trendy trash shirt because some poor 11 -year Chinese girl got paid pennies per day to make it. Not good. Reply
  4. Alexis of NorthOnHarper, November 4, 2011
    I think you make some really strong observations here. Forever 21 does not design for adult women. Plus, the issues of copying is a real turn off. I rather spend $10 more dollars on an item than worry about the impact on another designer let alone the work force. Reply
    • Elizabeth, November 4, 2011
      @alexis I agree. Although I’m sure I own brands by designers accused of copying, Forever 21 is so blatant about it and they’re going after the little guy, copying a lot of independent designers, it’s just disgusting. I used to buy from Forever 21 a few years ago, like little supplemental things to my wardrobe, but now I just refuse to step foot inside. Reply
      • Ellie, November 7, 2011
        The thing that really concerns me is that Forever 21 has a policy already in place to settle with designers who they blatently copy. It disturbs me that they have a fund to pay out of. Reply

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